Abzocke – Suche Nachmieter für helle Mietwohnung

Kürzlich entdeckten wir auf einem Immobilienportal eine verlockend günstige Wohnung – eine Wohnung in der Getreidegasse die normalerweise mindestens das Doppelte kostet.

Auf eine kurze Anfrage kam dann prompt eine englischsprachige Mail, die wie folgt lautete:

Hello,
I just read your e-mail regarding my apartment for rent. I bought this apartment for my daughter during her studies in Austria, but now she’s back home permanently, so I’m renting the place for unlimited time.

Before we go any further I would like to know how many persons you intend to share the flat with, and for how long. The flat is fully furnished and renovated, exactly like in the photos. Also, very important, the utilities (cold/hot water, electricity, wireless broadband Internet, digital TV, air conditioning, dishwasher, garbage disposal, microwave, refrigerator, washing machine, etc.) are included in the price of 400EUR/month. The deposit is also EUR 400,00, and you get it back, when you decide to leave the apartment (you will have to give me at least 30 days notice).
As for me, you can rest assured that I will never ask you to leave the apartment.You can use my furniture, or you can also use your own if you prefer. If you decide to use yours, you will have access to a large and well ventilated cellar, where you can store my furniture. Now, a little bit about myself: My name is Christian Ponder and I’m a 58 years old graphic designer from London, planning to retire in the next 2 years. I have a lovely wife, Christine and a 25 year old daughter, Linda. I am very proud to say that soon I’m going to be a grandfather.

Another member of our family is an 6 year old Labrador which we all love, so, I won’t mind if you will keep pets. The only inconvenience is that my job doesn’t allow me to leave London even for one single day. We just hired some new staff and I’m in charge of their training. But this won’t affect you at all. I can make arrangements to rent the apartment from London (on my expense of course).

Looking forward to hear from you soon.
All the best from Britain!

Diese ganze Story mit seiner Tochter und seinem Labrador kam mir schon sehr sehr verdächtig vor, sehr kreativ geschrieben. Kein normaler Mensch der einem eine Wohnung vermieten will schreibt einem solche Geschichten, das ist schon zu viel des Guten und allgemein klingt alles schon viel zu gut um wahr zu sein. Und da er ja angeblich ein Graphic Designer aus London ist, kurz vor der Rente, dürfte man doch annehmen man findet irgendwas wenn man seinen Namen + london googelt… Nichts.

Auf Nachfrage ob man die Wohnung besichtigen könne – nur interessehalber, was kommt – dann folgendes:

Hello,

Thank you for your reply.
After analyzing all the applications together with my wife we decided that you would be suitable to rent the apartment.

As I said, the total price which you’ll have to pay for one month of rent (warm miete) will be €400, no additional costs.
The rent will be paid monthly, directly to my British bank account. In order to view the flat and settle a deal, you will need the keys, and the contract. Since I am unable to come to Austria personally, and my daughter is already back here, I’ve hired a major real estate agency from London, specialized in international rentals, to represent me. They are called Rentals Ltd, and their website is: […] This agency will handle the delivery of the keys, the inspection of the flat and also the payment .

Here’s how it works :

1 – To start this transaction, I need your full name, address and telephone number. I will also need to know the rental period so I can put it in the contract.
2 – I will go to the Rentals Ltd office to drop off the keys and documents of the house, along with the contract
3 – Rentals Ltd will check the documents to make sure I am the actual owner of the flat, then, they will send you an invoice (rechnung).
4 – At this point you’ll have to pay one month rent 400 EURO + 400 euro security deposit total =800 euro as a security deposit to Rentals Ltd, according to the instructions from the invoice. This will be a guarantee that they don’t send an agent all the way to Austria for a joke. The deposit will be just a formality, and it will not commit you to renting the flat. The money will remain in the custody of Rentals Ltd until you have checked the flat and confirmed that everything is ok.
5 – After you pay the deposit, and send them the details, Rentals Ltd will send an agent to Austria in the next 24-48 hours (Monday to Friday) to meet you and help you inspect the flat. .
6 – You can also decide which date and time will fit your schedule best for the inspection.
7 – If you will be satisfied with the flat, you will sign a copy of the contract and the pay for the first month of rent will be considered those first 400 euros paid in the security deposit. (the following rents will be paid directly to my account) However, if you are not pleased with the apartment for any reason, the Rentals Ltd agent will give you the money back on the spot, and I will get my keys and documents back. I will pay for the services of the agency, so there will be no extra costs for you. Also, in case you have another apartment right now, and you cannot move out immediately, we can make the deal as I explained it now, and consider it only an inspection and reservation. You will move in when you are ready and pay the first rent then. If you want to begin, please give me the details which I requested above, so I can make the arrangements. I am waiting for your quick response, because there are several others interested in the apartment, and I need to know if I can count on a deal with you.

Best greetings!

Jaaaa ist klar – die 7 Schritte zum Glück oder wie? 😀
Allerspätestens jetzt sollten alle Alamglocken läuten – man soll Geld überweisen und erst dann kommt sein englischer Makler mit den Schlüsseln rüber, wer’s glaubt. Für meinen Geschmack wurde auch ein paar Mal zu oft erwähnt dass es nur 400 Euro wären und keiiine Zusatzkosten dazu kommen.

Absender war Christian Ponder, christianponders@gmail.com

Leider werden einige Leute auf diese Masche hereinfallen, wird ja bereits im großen Stil betrieben. Lokale Wohnungsangebote mit reellen Wohnungsadressen und Fotos werden kopiert, sodass alles täuschend echt aussieht. Wenn da nur nicht der Labrador und die 7 Schritte zum Glück wären… 😉

5 Gedanken zu „Abzocke – Suche Nachmieter für helle Mietwohnung“

  1. Danke für den Artikel. Bin bei seiner Antwort auch schon stutzig geworden und bei der zweiten Antwort wurde es schon skuril.. Aber dennoch wie du sagst – sehr kreativ. Das Gleiche geht auch auf mobile.de so. Diese Welt ist schleeeecht

  2. Hallo Alexander,

    in Santiago de Chile haben meine Freundinnen und ich ähnliches erlebt: eine super Wohnung, 100 m2, voll mobliert und mit tollen Bildern. Die Email, die wir als Antwort bekamen war fast die gleiche, die du erhalten hast (im Anhang). Uns wunderte, die angebliche „Lara Kruber“, die viel zu viele Privatdaten über sich und ihre Familie schrieb.

    Wir haben die angebliche „Graphic Designer“ in London auch gesucht und nichts… Einen Teil der Email haben wir dann in Google eingegeben und deine Website gefunden.

    Wir wollten uns bei dir bedanken, da du uns geholfen hast diesen Reinfall zu entdecken!

    Grüße aus Chile,

     

    Christine

    Anbei die Email:

     

    Hello,

     I just read your message regarding my apartment.

    Sorry if my answer comes quite late, but your email arrived in my spam folder, and I couldn’t see it until now.

    I bought this apartment for my daughter during her studies in Chille, but now she’s back home permanently, so I’m renting the place for unlimited time.

    The flat is fully furnished and renovated, exactly like in the photos.

    You can use my furniture, or you can also use your own if you prefer. If you decide to use yours, you will have access to a large and well ventilated cellar, where you can store my furniture.

    Also, very important, the utilities (cold/hot water, electricity, wireless broadband Internet, digital TV, 2 parking spots in garage, air conditioning, dishwasher, garbage disposal, microwave, refrigerator, washing machine, etc.) are included in the price of 250.000 CLP/month. The deposit is also 250.000 CLP , and you get it back, when you decide to leave the apartment (you will have to give me at least 30 days notice). As for me, you can rest assured that I will never ask you to leave the apartment.

    Before we go any further I would like to know how many persons you intend to share the flat with, and for how long.

    Now, a little bit about myself: My name is Lara Kruber and I’m a 59 years old graphic designer from London, planning to retire in the next 2 years.

    I have a lovely husband, Roy and a 25 year old daughter, Ellen. I am very proud to say that soon I’m going to be a grandmother :).

    Another member of our family is a six year old Labrador Retriever which we all love, so, since I’m a pet owner myself, I will have no problem if you want to keep a pet in the house.

    The only inconvenience is that my job doesn’t allow me to leave London even for one single day. We just hired some new staff and I’m in charge of their training, so my schedule is pretty hectic right now.

    But this won’t affect the rental at all. I can make arrangements to rent the apartment from London (on my expense of course).

     

    Looking forward to hear from you soon.

     

    All the best from Britain!

  3. Ich habe genau das gleiche erlebt in Spanien Valencia.

    Selbe Email nur wurden die Namen vertauscht… unfassbar!

     

     
    Hello,

    I just read your message regarding my apartment.
    Sorry if my answer comes quite late, but your email arrived in my spam folder, and I couldn’t see it until now.
    I bought this apartment for my daughter during her studies in España, but now she’s back home permanently, so I’m renting the place for unlimited time.
    The flat is fully furnished and renovated, exactly like in the photos.
    You can use my furniture, or you can also use your own if you prefer. If you decide to use yours, you will have access to a large and well ventilated cellar, where you can store my furniture.
    Also, very important, the utilities (cold/hot water, electricity, wireless broadband Internet, digital TV, 2 parking spots in garage, air conditioning, dishwasher, garbage disposal, microwave, refrigerator, washing machine, etc.) are included in the price of €350/month. The deposit is also € 750, and you get it back, when you decide to leave the apartment (you will have to give me at least 30 days notice). As for me, you can rest assured that I will never ask you to leave the apartment.
    Before we go any further I would like to know how many persons you intend to share the flat with, and for how long.
    Now, a little bit about myself: My name is Linda Kruber and I’m a 59 years old graphic designer from London, planning to retire in the next 2 years.
    I have a lovely husband, Roy and a 25 year old daughter, Ellen. I am very proud to say that soon I’m going to be a grandmother :).
    Another member of our family is a six year old Labrador Retriever which we all love, so, since I’m a pet owner myself, I will have no problem if you want to keep a pet in the house.
    The only inconvenience is that my job doesn’t allow me to leave London even for one single day. We just hired some new staff and I’m in charge of their training, so my schedule is pretty hectic right now.
    But this won’t affect the rental at all. I can make arrangements to rent the apartment from London (on my expense of course).

    Looking forward to hear from you soon

     

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